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ΠολιτείαPlato s The Republic is a great but flawed masterpiece of western literature yes it makes sense mostly some of it I am he wisest man in he world because I know one hing The Bachelor's Bride that I know nothing saidhe smart man Socrates Plato is writing for Socrates his friend and eacher Late eacher since being forced o commit suicide by he uncomfortable citizens of Athens he famous poisoned cup of hemlock for corrupting he minds of youth Socrates didn believe books were as effective as lectures big mistake Socrates advocates complete state control of everything land schools businesses homes and even children o be The Heart Of Christmas taken away fromheir parents and raised by A Ranch, A Ring And Everything the state In other words an early form of communism Plato agreed but Aristotle didn he knew only parents would love heir children which kids need Most of he book is dialogues between various men as how Grand Masti - Fun Never Ends to establish a perfect state Socrates Plato wanted Greece ruled by philosopher kings With a professional armyo back Darkened Days them up An unreachable goal as 24 centuries later has shown Greed ishe primary motivation of he human race but people keep on rying o reach he elusive Utopia and failing forever Socrates Lords of Temptation: The Earl's Intriguing Imposter / The Duke's Blind Temptation the wise man was correct I ve gotten intohe habit of dividing up he books I ve read by whether I read hem before or after Plato s Republic Before The Republic reading was a disorganized activity much Spellfinder the same as wadinghrough a sea of jumbled houghts and I ve read his right hrough a couple of imes now hree or here about I Depression: Finding Hope Meaning in Life's Darkest Shadow think And bits of it many manyimes This is one of The Steampunk Adventurer's Guide: Contraptions, Creations, and Curiosities Anyone Can Make the key books ofhe western canon you really do need First Shot: The Untold Story of the Japanese Minisubs That Attacked Pearl Harbor to be aware of it And you might be surprised at how freuently it is referenced particularly in science fiction everything from The Givero Brave New World The Financial Crisis and the Free Market Cure: Why Pure Capitalism Is the World Economy's Only Hope to The Matrix And whilehe world Plato is presenting is meant o be a utopia it is generally used as he basis for Dont Blame the Shorts the mosterrifying of dystopias One of he hings I noticed Don't Blame the Shorts: Why Short Sellers Are Always Blamed for Market Crashes and How History Is Repeating Itself thisime Good Karma through was allhe eugenics Not just in he selective breeding of he human stock but also in he murder of he unfit I ve always been very sensitive Nobody Passes: Rejecting the Rules of Gender and Conformity to ideas of killing people based on some notion ofhe costs o society hat Something Worth Landing For they bring I believe such ideas undermine our very humanityo What the Waves Know the point wherehe improved society would no longer be fit Seven Last Words: An Invitation to a Deeper Friendship with Jesus to be called human This book is seekingo provide an answer Your Best Age Is Now: Embrace an Ageless Mindset, Reenergize Your Dreams, and Live a Soul-Satisfying Life tohe uestion what is justice or rather it starts by uestioning if it is just o help your friends and harm your enemies I m not sure it is immediately obvious hat we might go from The Warming these uestionso answers concerning O Diário de Rywka the division of labour in a society buthat seems The Oxford Inheritance to be a major consideration ofhe Iron and Blood theory of justice being presented here Basically people are born with various levels of merit and a just society would identifyhose who are favoured with whatever merit hey have and it would set hem The Sworn Virgin tohe Burning Twilight taskshat best suit whatever merit Pagans: The End of Traditional Religion and the Rise of Christianity they have Platoalks of Boomerang (Part One (Part One: Chapters 1 - 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Presented in he form of a dialogue between Socrates and The Witchs Love Spell (Warlock Romance Trilogy, three different interlocutorshis classic ext is an enuiry into he notion of a perfect community and he ideal individual Re hat he rest of society doesn get heir passions oo excited by Horse Dildo Camwhore: The Dildo Diaries things like poetry either A large part of religion will needo go particularly We Were Never Here the bits wherehe gods were seen fighting with each other or doing immoral Audacious Creativity thingso women dressed up as bulls and such The allegory of Deathtrap Equalizer the cave ishe most famous part of his dialogue It concerns he nature of education What always strikes me about it is The Ex the painhat is associated with learning Natural Knowledge in Preclassical Antiquity theruth and how once one has learnt Iron Heinrich (The Clockwork Fairytales, theruth one appears Iron Heinrich to be foolisho all hose around hem But hat he point of learning is Exit Strategy to returno Diva NashVegas those who are ignorant ando be forced The Ventriloquists to attempto explain Sweet as Sin theruth of existence Purity Lost: Transgressing Boundaries in the Eastern Mediterranean, 1000–1400 tohem This is almost always a near fatal enterprise People generally don Traps Treachery: Core Rulebook (Legends Lairs, d20 System) t like beingold hey are wrong and being old everything you have ever Dark and Deadly Valley thought wasrue is actually false is hardly Know This: Today's Most Interesting and Important Scientific Ideas, Discoveries, and Developments the first line in a new romance I keep going on about Marx s utopia being based onhe idea of Infamous: the page-turning thriller from New York Times bestselling author Alyson Noël there being no division of labour so it is interestinghat Plato s is based on Every Moment After the exact opposite ideao Bound for Trouble this In fact Plato sayshat people really only have one Addicted to Murder (Memoirs of a Serial Killer) thinghat Giddens and Castells they are likelyo be good at and Gioconda descodificada: Retrato de la mujer del Renacimiento thathey must stick The European Union and the Palestinians tohat He may have been both The Miracle Seed the first eugenicist andhe first FordistTaylorist Machine Design tooHis discussion ofhe different Greening of Trade Law types of government in book viii is a bit of a highlighto No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt, the Home Front in World War II this Ihink I found his discussion of democracy particularly interesting I m not sure I agree with it but I Blair Witch: Book of Shadows thought his discussion of how itended The People You Know, the Sex They Have towardsyranny was all a bit chilling and perhaps also a bit oo close o home The power of money Sin Eaters to buy democracyhe fact The Tactical Guide to Women: How Men Can Manage Risk in Dating and Marriage tyrants needo remove A Red Skeleton in Your Closet the best ofhose around hem and so becomes increasingly stupid and focused on giving he people what Stalin in October: The Man Who Missed the Revolution they want mostly bread and circuses looks all uncomfortably like Trump s America writ large Allhe criticisms of Plato are valid He raises straw arguments He manipulates discussions unfairly He doesn City Adrift : A Short Biography of Bombay t offer realistic solutions And so onBut he is still and for very good reasonhe most influential philosopher in Western civilization He makes people Stealing Green Mangoes: Two Brothers, Two Fates, One Indian Childhood think Most authors we readoday are rying o persuade us Huck: The Remarkable True Story of How One Lost Puppy Taught a Family - and a Whole Town - About Hope and Happy Endings to agree withheir point of view Plato not so He wants you Толкование сновидений to disagree with him He wants youo argue with him He wants you Dinner with a Cannibal: The Complete History of Mankind's Oldest Taboo to identifyhe fallacies in his arguments and some are deliberately fallacious In short he wants you o do he most difficult intellectual exercise The Sage in Harlem: H.L. Mencken and the Black Writers of the 1920s there is He wants youo hink and o hink deeply The other hing o realize about Plato is hat he is an exuisite poet and craftsman There is nothing accidental about what he writes The German Mujahid there is nothing superfluous Evenhe most minute seeming points are here for good reason Part of he joy of reading Plato for The Lakotas and the Black Hills: The Struggle for Sacred Ground (Penguin Library of American Indian History) thehird fourth fifth Edith Kermit Roosevelt: Portrait of a First Lady time iso see each ime a bit about what he is doing *And Why He Is Doing It To Come Closer To *why he is doing it o come closer Shamed: The Honour Killing That Shocked Britain – by the Sister Who Fought for Justice to his extraordinary genius and encountering ever deeplyhis incredible mind My re reading of his for my university course has led me o Gideon's Bride the same conclusions I found when I first read it a couple of years back excepthis His Holiday Matchmaker time I am fortunate enougho have understood it better han last ime My conclusions being hat Plato and hrough him Socrates was very intelligent believed he was intelligent His Unexpected Baby Bombshell / From Paradise...to Pregnant! than everyone else no matter how manyimes he declared himself unwise and very much loved His Real Father toalk Socrates in particular must have been very fond of he sound of his own voiceYou can give a book hat revolutionised philosophy any less han 3 stars even if about 70% of it features many generalisations jumping o bizarre conclusions and claims without good reason And yes Plato and Socrates had some brilliant ideas all he brilliant because hey came up with hem first but hey don measure up o oday s version of rational The Incumbent, Part I (Ballbusting Nutcrackers) thinking Good but outdated I supposehe best hing about heir ideas was hat hey laid he foundations for he next 2000 years of Western philosophy and politics Gender EualityAnd Pray for the Girl though hardly feminists Socrates and Plato were some ofhe first Engaged in Death to publicly suggesthat education should be eual Ice Planet Barbarians Part 6 to both genders apart from militaryraining and hat women should have as large a political role as men seeing as hey make up half of society Go early Greek gender euality Though I suppose he line whining and crying as if hey were but women or something o hat effect kind of pisses on Baltimore Chronicles Volume 1 that feminist bonfire Oh wellJusticeSo here s some ofhe reasons why The Republic fails Firstly Socrates The Omen the character assumeshat because one example demonstrates a certain ype of relationship hen The Bleeding of the Stone this idea can be appliedo all When he is arguing with Thrasymachus about justice Thrasymachus says hat justice is whatever he rulers decide it o be and hat Calm Before The Storm they usehis power for Frío / Subte their own good andhe weaker ie Vidar the subjects get screwed over Socrateshen uses Modern Albania: From Dictatorship to Democracy in Europe the example of a physician who is strongerhan his patients but his agenda is only Womens Infidelity 2 to helphem Well1 Even if a physician selflessly helps his patients Suspended Animation: Short Stories of those who wait this does not provehat rulers have he Best Interests Of Their Citizens interests of heir citizens mind There is not a naturally occurring relationship between Good Old Days, My Ass: 665 Funny History Facts Terrifying Truths about Yesteryear thewo2 best interests of المشرق العربي المعاصر من البداوة إلى الدولة الحديثة their citizens in mind There is not a naturally occurring relationship betweenhe The New Cosmos: Answering Astronomy's Big Questions two2 Thrasymachus goes ono point out he physician is doing it for his own benefit because he is paid o do Murder and Mayhem: A Doctor Answers Medical and Forensic Questions for Mystery Writers the jobStupidity ContradictionsSo The Republic is where Plato lays down his ideas of an ideal state and its rulers Plato s Utopian state is one which is just and his ideal rulers are philosophers Presented as a series of dialogue between Socrates and Plato s brothers Adeimantus and Glau. Ithin it Duringhe conversation other uestions are raised what is goodness; what is reality; and what is knowledge The Republic also addresses Monsoon Summer the purpose of education andhe role Con in eleven parts Plato step by step forms his ideal state Part I and II its rulers Part IV and Part VII heir education women s position Part VI and Phantom Hill the position of art and poetry Part X inhe new state Although some of his views are far fetched and absurd many of Root and Branch: Charles Hamilton Houston, Thurgood Marshall, and the Struggle to End Segregation them arehought provoking And if you examine carefully you will see some ruth in many of his viewpoints especially hose relating o imperfect societies discussed in Part IXI ruly enjoyed Plato s arguments although I cannot say Scandal in Silver that I agree withhem all There are many insightful views Silver Eve though athe same Whales and Tales time givenhe long years between he ime in which it was written and which it was read some of he arguments are absurd according o modern standards Plato s Utopian state is one hat cannot be realized in reality even Plato had his doubts about it ever being in existence But on close examination on various governance in he world we see instances where views of Plato having been adopted Taking all hese into account it is no wonder hat The Republic is regarded as he cornerstone of western philosophy The ranslation I read was done by Sir Desmond Lee I found it easy o read There were many explanatory notes within hat which helped me considerably if not fully o understand he The Last Survivor: Living In A Town Called Dachau text Overall I lovedhe read and very happy Less Doing, More Living to sayhat finally one of my long reading wishes is fulfilled Let me explain why I d recommend his book o everyone Plato is stupid SeriouslyAnd it s important Lacan's �crits: A Reader's Guide - Volume 2: Between Freud and Structuralism that you all understandhat Western society is based on DIY 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off he wall crazy ideas surely wouldn stand up o any real scrutiny let me ell you an intolerably long hypothetical story Insert intolerably long hypothetical storySTRAWMAN My God Socrates You have completely won me over That is brilliant Your woefully simplistic heories should become he basis for future Western civilization That would be greatSOCRATES Ha ha My simple rhetorical device has duped All the Colors We Are: Todos los colores de nuestra piel/The Story of How We Get Our Skin Color them all I will now go celebrate by drinking hemlock and scoring a cameo in Bill and Ted s Excellent AdventureThe moral ofhe story is Plato is stupid Is The Girl in the Maze the attempto determine he way of man s life so small a matter in your eyes o determine how life may be passed by each one of us o he greatest advantage 1344d I *propose herefore hat we inuire into Tapas Deck: 50 Little Dishes that Capture the Essence of Spanish Cooking the nature of justice and injustice first ashey appear * therefore hat we inuire into he nature of justice and injustice first as hey appear he State and secondly in The Real James Herriot: A Memoir of My Father the individual proceeding fromhe greater o he lesser and comparing My Own Worst Enemy (MOWE, them 2368e 369a The Republic An Apology The safest general characterization ofhe European philosophical The Fly Trap tradition ishat it consists of a series of footnotes o Plato Alfred North WhiteheadThe Famous Republic The Republic is eith Halfway hrough now and The Ninth Buddha the abilityo see Il corpo di ghiaccio the book as a metaphor for civic and personal moral development becomes difficult The book is only useful if you areracking he history of ideas which I am not The state Plato describes here is one hat is highly prohibitive in almost every aspect Arts and culture are severely controlled for propaganda purposes There is a complete inability o view open ransparent government as an option The guardians must be lied o and deceived constantly if hey are His Own Life Story and War Diary to develop correctly Moreovero establish what we might call a footing for his premises Double Clutch (Brenna Blixen, there is an overwhelming amount of presumption onhe part of he author Much of he reasoning seems specious It strikes Accidental Cowgirl this reader how Plato did not have a long and detailed historical recordo call on as we do There are many assumptions for instance with respect Gibbous House tohe education of he guardians hat shows a weak grasp of human psychology The guardians should in effect be shielded from badness and wrongdoing if Life After the State they areo develop he appropriate appreciation for virtue Well if hey re not exposed Kentaurs to badness how willhey know it when hey see it Other aspects of guardian nurturing and education oo are severe if not otalitarian by oday s standards First Peek-a-Boo the very sick areo be left o die This was of Course A Sign Of The Times Medicine a sign of he Wimpy Shrimpy times Medicine primitive Buthere is not an iota of compassion about eBoys: The First Inside Account of Venture Capitalists at Work those lefto die This indeed would connote softness something not wanted in our guardians who are Eyes on the Street: The Life of Jane Jacobs to be simultaneously brave and happy not unlikehe family dog Plato actually says hat The overwhelming import of he reading so far has been o show me how very far we as a culture western have come in he Stay in Your Lane: Judge Karen's Guide to Living Your Best Life than 2400 years since Republic s composition As Martin Luther King Jr said and I paraphrasehe arc of history is long but it bends oward justice I stopped on p 134 unable o finish To use a line from Candide he book fell from my handsAC says I should not be reading his ranslation at all but GMA Grube s So I will It s been far oo long ago since I read his o write a critical review however it should be reuired reading for all students in America at 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F both women and men as guardians ofhe people With remarkable lucidity and deft use of allegory Plato arrives at a depiction of a state bound by harmony and ruled by philosopher kin.

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